How John Loftus’s The Christian Delusion Fails: Part One

John Loftus and Book the Christian Delusion

Book Review: The Christian Delusion

John Loftus’s Facebook page lit up recently after I answered his question about going to church. Several of his friends challenged me to dig in to the meat of Loftus’s work. I had two of his books on my “guilt shelf” (books I own that I know I really ought to read), so I dove into one of them: The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails.

My conclusion: there actually is some meat here, some things worth thinking through seriously. But there’s no evidence of a grand Christian delusion. The Christian Delusion fails.

The book is a collection of 15 essays by ten authors. Dan Barker wrote in the Foreword, ”The case for faith is a case for ignorance” (emphasis his), and since many of the authors were once deeply involved in Christianity, “No one can pretend that the contributors in this volume have not given Jesus a fair shake or that they don’t know intimately what they’re talking about.”

I’m not so sure. I’ll present a smattering of reactions to several chapters, focusing on two in particular in later posts. I’ll start at the very beginning (“a very good place to start,” as Julie Andrews’s character Maria von Trapp once sang).

Culture and Religion

David Eller opens chapter 1,

Every argument in support of religion has been been shown to be inconclusive or generally false, yet religion persists, of course. If the case for religion in general fails, then the case for any particular form of religion, like theism or monotheism or Christian monotheism, naturally fails too.

Eller thinks there is a genus of social and psychological phenomena called “religion” of which all instances of “religions” are species; and that they all have something in common that can be assessed and refuted. He notes that Christianity is expressed culturally. The cultures in which it becomes situated influence the form it takes, and Christianity influences those cultures in turn. None of this is news; Eller quotes Christian anthropologists who have noted the same thing. Therefore there is more than one “Christianity,” culturally speaking, which is old news for Christians, too.

Eller takes us on a worthwhile and highly informative tour of Christianity and culture, then concludes,

By taking the notion of culture seriously, we have exposed some critical facts about Christianity in particular and religion in general. Religions may think they are universal and eternal, but they are not. Religions may think they are special, but they are not. …

Christians, like other religionists, are not so much convinced by arguments and proofs as colonized by assumptions and premises. As a form of culture, it seems self-evident to them; they are no so much indoctrinated as enculturated.

In fact what he has shown is that not all religions can be special, universal, and eternal (which we already knew). It does not logically follow that none of them is. Nor does the fact that people acquire Christian belief through culture mean that Christianity is false.

Psychology and Religion

In chapter 2 Valerie Tarico shows how persons can be fooled in their beliefs. This, too, is interesting and worth studying, but it has little to do with Christianity’s truth.

She says, for example, “The structure of thought itself predisposes us to religious thinking.” She attributes that to evolution-based hyperactive agency detection or pattern recognition. It could also be a result of God wiring us that way. She says “God has a human mind” because we’ve made him that way; it could just as well be (as far as it’s true, which is not as far as she thinks) on account of God making us in his image.

Conclusions You Can’t Logically Draw

Psychology on its own, she says, provides “a sufficient explanation for the phenomenon of belief” (emphasis hers). Sure. But that only speaks against the truth of Christianity if one knows our psychology wasn’t made that way by God. She assumes that to be true, but this is begging the question.

Let’s be very rigorous about what we’re saying here about both Eller’s and Tarico’s chapter. The way in which a religion is passed along has nothing to do with its truth. Its truth depends on its truth, not on the way it’s propagated or the mode under which one comes to believe it.

Cautions About What You Can Know

Now, Loftus would add (and he does, for an entire chapter) that the way it’s propagated has a huge influence on our ability to know whether it’s true. I agree. My short answer to his “Outsider Test for Faith” is that it’s a highly interesting cautionary note, well worth paying attention to — but we can still arrive at reasoned conclusions about worldviews anyway, even our own. Otherwise John couldn’t safely conclude that his own atheistic worldview — which is subject to the same rule, even though he denies it — must be false. (Actually, I’m quite sure he can’t; but he thinks he can, which is enough for purposes of this argument.)

I have much more to say. Jason Long’s chapter on persuasion theory, for one, leads to a very fascinating discussion on the counterintuitive role bias and objectivity play in the trust we can place in scholars’ conclusions.

Other chapters show that Barker is wrong: the authors don’t know Christianity at all — especially John Loftus in chapter 9. For the first half of that chapter I was surprised at the strength of John’s argument. It didn’t last. By the end I was laughing out loud.

But this is enough for now. More to come.

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7 thoughts on “How John Loftus’s The Christian Delusion Fails: Part One

  1. We really need to thank John Loftus and the entire New Atheist movement. In the long run (however “long” it’s been) they have really helped Christianity. We have them to thank for a renewed interest in Christian apologetics that’s spread across the church spectrum. They have reminded us that our faith is based on solid facts and reasoning and can be successfully defended. They have helped us refine our skills and helped many, like myself, come to faith through thoughtful teaching.

    On the other hand, for the New Atheists themselves, I’m not sure the future is quite so bright. Their “greatest” voice, Richard Dawkins, is in semi retirement from his New Atheist stardom. He’s been pretty much booed of the stage for his repeated failures at both theology and philosophy. He still writes well on evolution though. David Bentley Hart, of course, summed this up a number of years ago when he wrote:

    I think I am very close to concluding that this whole “New Atheism” movement is only a passing fad—not the cultural watershed its purveyors imagine it to be, but simply one of those occasional and inexplicable marketing vogues that inevitably go the way of pet rocks, disco, prime-time soaps, and The Bridges of Madison County. This is not because I necessarily think the current “marketplace of ideas” particularly good at sorting out wise arguments from foolish. But the latest trend in à la mode godlessness, it seems to me, has by now proved itself to be so intellectually and morally trivial that it has to be classified as just a form of light entertainment, and popular culture always tires of its diversions sooner or later and moves on to other, equally ephemeral toys.

  2. Hey mate,

    Good on you for reading a pretty decent criticism of your religion.

    This was interesting:

    “What’s interesting about Tom’s review is that he seems to be saying “So-and-so said B about religion. B could be true about other religions but not about Christianity.” However, he doesn’t provide any reason to believe that B is not true in regards to Christianity. He states, for example:

    “In fact what he has shown is that not all religions can be special, universal, and eternal (which we already knew). It does not logically follow that none of them is. Nor does the fact that people acquire Christian belief through culture mean that Christianity is false.”

    While the last sentence is true he does not show how people of other cultures acquiring a false religion through their culture are any different from Christians or how Christians are different from them in acquiring their religious beliefs.” – Patrick Reynolds

    I hope you read Loftus’ WIBA, then McCormick’s ACAC, in that order, as they are the books that best demonstrate the improbability of your religion.

  3. Hi, Josh, and thanks for that good word. Where did you run across that quote from Patrick, though? Is there a Facebook link or something?

    Taking it at face value, I’d say that’s interesting to me is that he found that interesting. Patrick is apparently saying that there is something I did not show in this blog post. That’s not exactly remarkable.

    As you yourself have acknowledged, Josh, even a book like The Christian Delusion doesn’t tell the whole story. You’ve recommended two others to me.

    You could find the answers to Patrick’s challenge by looking around this blog for a while, or by going to this Touchstone article. The whole story isn’t there, either, but it’s some of it.

  4. Hi, Josh, and thanks for that good word. Where did you run across that quote from Patrick, though? Is there a Facebook link or something?

    It is on John’s Facebook page in the post where he mentions this review of yours.

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