Irony

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10 Responses

  1. Neil Shenvi says:

    Busted. I always knew “Tom Gilson” was an alias. What’s your real name? Bono? Neville? Queequeg? It’s only a matter of time before you let it slip.
    -Neil

  2. Bryan B says:

    Angry much?

  3. Tom Gilson says:

    Neil:

    🙂

  4. Tom Gilson says:

    Bryan,

    Someone might be. The rest of the email went like this:

    You are not even on the same intellectual plane as Gregory Paul. He’d chew you up and spit you out if you ever had the balls to face him in a debate.

    You cowards keep on hiding behind your website cover and your mythical god.

    GSPaul and his articles are going to be around debunking religion for years to come. Lose sleep while you can…

    The ellipsis at the end there was in the original, and it was the end of the message.

    I’m sure there are topics on which Gregory Paul could defeat me in debate. I’m sure there are some in which I could defeat him. That’s of no consequence; we all have strong and weak areas.

    All I’ve said about him, in articles here and comments elsewhere, is that one particular journal article he wrote, claiming that Christian countries are less moral than other countries, is of no scientific value. The journal in which he published it even seems to have acknowledged that fact: they published a strong rebuttal shortly after.

    I’m sure Gregory S. Paul is highly intelligent. I have no animosity toward the man. I know God loves him infinitely, as he also loves the person who sent me this email. I pray they both sleep well, to borrow the thought that was expressed toward me, and I pray that they both discover God’s love for real.

  5. Tom Gilson says:

    Note to “TruthOverFaith:”

    I am sorry for whatever it was that you’ve experienced, heard, been told, or whatever it is that led to the kind of anger you apparently feel. I could not release your comment from moderation because I’m committed to remaining consistent with my comment guidelines, linked just above the comment box. Realize that I do not block disagreements or disputes.

  6. Greg says:

    I wonder what the emailer meant by “you cowards”, since initially the email seems directed to Tom. Does the emailer mean all Christians? This is indeed an irony considering Dawkins’ refusal to debate William Lane Craig.

  7. Victoria says:

    What is it that the e-mailer believes we fear?

  8. JAD says:

    Gregory S. Paul writes:

    “It is literally impossible for a moral, powerful and competent creator deity to exist, and for core Christian doctrine to be correct. This is because the extraordinary amount of human suffering statistically measured by the death of immature humans caused by disease, reproductive defects and other natural causes – the Holocaust of the Children – has been as maximal as possible, and only a small percentage of adult humans have been able to make a free will choice regarding their eternal fate. The host of theological absurdities that result from the failure of a creator to protect the innocent children further wrecks Christian doctrine. It follows that there is no godly basis for the pro-life movement because there is no evidence that a god favors life over premature death. Nor is religion able to provide a moral basis for individual or societal morality, a fact confirmed by the actual conditions present in the most successful modern nations.”

    http://gspaulscienceofreligion.com/

    Is this the Gregory Paul the emailer is referring to?

  9. Tom Gilson says:

    Yes.

    See also here for previous mentions on this website.

  10. SteveK says:

    Gregory Paul: Not only can science easily detect the existence of a creator intelligence under a wide variety of circumstances, it can describe its basic characteristics.

    I thought ID was religious nonsense?