This 12-year old rightly notes that abortion kills 42 million human lives per year. She rightly asks us to think about the fetus, as well as the negative emotional effects on the mother.
Christians can be confident that God does not condemn these unborn babies to hell. Thus, hundreds of millions souls that might have been eternally separated from God through a faithless earthly life are, through abortion, made safe from that awful possibility. God redeems what is otherwise irredeemable; faith comforts in the face of despair. Do not mourn like the unbelievers who regard neither God nor eternity, who have no hope. Resist the sin, but rejoice on behalf of the innocent unborn, whose souls are safe from the evil one. Use this good news to comfort the mothers who are experiencing psychological distress.
I’m not going to justify the insanity that CT’s arguments will lead to with anything more than this:
Any person who tries to “comfort” purveyors, victims, or proponents of abortion using that kind of logic, calling it “good news”, is spiritually crippled and in desperate need of a reality check. You don’t soften the moral or eternal implications of murder with that kind of sophistic tripe – you just make yourself complicit in its toleration.
I won’t waste more of Tom’s blog space or my own time on something that absurd.
“spiritually crippled and in desperate need of a reality check”
Some might say that the spiritually crippled one is he who fails to consider the eternity, the mercies of God on the unborn, the fearful possibility of hell, the psychological trauma of abortion perpetrators, and the welfare of the unborn. Are you denying that these are aspects of reality?
For the sake of righteousness, go ahead and denounce abortion. Just don\’t say that you are doing this for the sake of the unborn. Towards the mothers who have had abortion and are now emotionally traumatized, it is wrong to make abortion out to be worse than it really is.
There are some people who, in a confused attempt at piety, would lie about a sin in order to prevent that sin. But lying is wrong.
If the truth is that some aborted babies might otherwise have grown up and failed to come to faith in Christ, then you need to face up to this fact. That would be a reality check.
ct, you’ve had your say on this topic. It was foolish then, and even though you’ve moderated your position just slightly on this thread it’s still foolish.
There are two groups of frequent commenters here: those who accept the authority of the Bible and those who don’t. The second group don’t seem to care what you have to say, since you are ostensibly basing it on a biblical view of eternal salvation they don’t buy in the first place. The first group, those who believe in the truth of the Bible, know that what you’re saying is just really wrong, and in the thread I have already linked to, we have demonstrated our case.
You did not accept that we have demonstrated it, but you’re the only one here who couldn’t seem to see that. And the rest of us grew very tired of making our points over and over again.
Thus there are some readers here who couldn’t care less how this discussion comes out, and there are other readers who share my opinion that more than enough has been said about it already. So I’m going to draw the same line I drew at the end of that long discussion, and cut this one short right now. Any further posts from you will go into comment moderation before they appear on the blog here, and anything you write on this topic will be deleted without further explanation.
This 12-year old rightly notes that abortion kills 42 million human lives per year. She rightly asks us to think about the fetus, as well as the negative emotional effects on the mother.
Christians can be confident that God does not condemn these unborn babies to hell. Thus, hundreds of millions souls that might have been eternally separated from God through a faithless earthly life are, through abortion, made safe from that awful possibility. God redeems what is otherwise irredeemable; faith comforts in the face of despair. Do not mourn like the unbelievers who regard neither God nor eternity, who have no hope. Resist the sin, but rejoice on behalf of the innocent unborn, whose souls are safe from the evil one. Use this good news to comfort the mothers who are experiencing psychological distress.
I’m not going to justify the insanity that CT’s arguments will lead to with anything more than this:
Any person who tries to “comfort” purveyors, victims, or proponents of abortion using that kind of logic, calling it “good news”, is spiritually crippled and in desperate need of a reality check. You don’t soften the moral or eternal implications of murder with that kind of sophistic tripe – you just make yourself complicit in its toleration.
I won’t waste more of Tom’s blog space or my own time on something that absurd.
@MedicineMan:
Some might say that the spiritually crippled one is he who fails to consider the eternity, the mercies of God on the unborn, the fearful possibility of hell, the psychological trauma of abortion perpetrators, and the welfare of the unborn. Are you denying that these are aspects of reality?
For the sake of righteousness, go ahead and denounce abortion. Just don\’t say that you are doing this for the sake of the unborn. Towards the mothers who have had abortion and are now emotionally traumatized, it is wrong to make abortion out to be worse than it really is.
There are some people who, in a confused attempt at piety, would lie about a sin in order to prevent that sin. But lying is wrong.
If the truth is that some aborted babies might otherwise have grown up and failed to come to faith in Christ, then you need to face up to this fact. That would be a reality check.
ct, you’ve had your say on this topic. It was foolish then, and even though you’ve moderated your position just slightly on this thread it’s still foolish.
There are two groups of frequent commenters here: those who accept the authority of the Bible and those who don’t. The second group don’t seem to care what you have to say, since you are ostensibly basing it on a biblical view of eternal salvation they don’t buy in the first place. The first group, those who believe in the truth of the Bible, know that what you’re saying is just really wrong, and in the thread I have already linked to, we have demonstrated our case.
You did not accept that we have demonstrated it, but you’re the only one here who couldn’t seem to see that. And the rest of us grew very tired of making our points over and over again.
Thus there are some readers here who couldn’t care less how this discussion comes out, and there are other readers who share my opinion that more than enough has been said about it already. So I’m going to draw the same line I drew at the end of that long discussion, and cut this one short right now. Any further posts from you will go into comment moderation before they appear on the blog here, and anything you write on this topic will be deleted without further explanation.