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		<title>By: Tom Gilson</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-6493</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suzy, the timing of your comment is interesting, since I just posted &lt;a href="../../06/jesus-who-was-he-really/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, and your comment could have fit there as easily as here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My short answer to "Do you think Jesus would have wanted it any other way" is another question: "How would we know what Jesus would or would not have wanted?" That other post points toward the only answer that makes sense, which is to find out what we can about Jesus from the best sources we have available....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzy, the timing of your comment is interesting, since I just posted <a href="../../06/jesus-who-was-he-really/" rel="nofollow">this</a>, and your comment could have fit there as easily as here.</p>
<p>My short answer to &#8220;Do you think Jesus would have wanted it any other way&#8221; is another question: &#8220;How would we know what Jesus would or would not have wanted?&#8221; That other post points toward the only answer that makes sense, which is to find out what we can about Jesus from the best sources we have available&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzy Sturm</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-6492</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzy Sturm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Eckhart's first book 10 years ago, saw him probably a dozen times and had a simple faith that, as Jesus said, "the kingdom of heaven is within."  Experiences are only pointers and I at first had some incredible glimpses and otherworldly insights which inspired my continuing faith in this teacher.  I would suddenly see that there was no "me" - just this pure awareness and the whole world appeariing in this awareness. There was no separation from those around me - I vividly remember  setting in a hotel lobby, experiencing the pride of the janitor in his freshly polished floors, the joy of two young girls headed for the spa, and the sadness of the concierege who was talking softly into the phone about a death in her family.  I was all them, and they were me.  My thinking would completely suspend itself leaving me with the most profound sense of unity and joy.    But experiences are not "it" because experiences come and go. And what YOU are, never changes.  I discovered that I was the screen on which all of these appearances occured.  I am the aliveness of life.   I now see what Jesus meant by "no one comes to the Father but through me."  He WAS referring to each of us...why, in his compassion, would he claim such exclusivity?  The Father comes as joy, peace and love of others...I know of no other definition of God.   I also took opportunities to be with others who had come to the same understanding as Eckhart.  Some through the pointers of teachers, some through suffering, some with spontaneous awakenings. They all say the same thing as Eckhart, with their own delightful differences in personality.   Now life is very ordinary, very simple, often with wonderment at the simpliest things.  I go to sleep and wake up laughing spontaneously, with joy that wells up from deep within.  No one on the street would guess that so much peace abides here.  You, each of you, ARE the light of the world.  Because the world cannot appear without your "light" - your &lt;em&gt;awareness&lt;/em&gt;. Do you think Jesus would have wanted it any other way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Eckhart&#8217;s first book 10 years ago, saw him probably a dozen times and had a simple faith that, as Jesus said, &#8220;the kingdom of heaven is within.&#8221;  Experiences are only pointers and I at first had some incredible glimpses and otherworldly insights which inspired my continuing faith in this teacher.  I would suddenly see that there was no &#8220;me&#8221; - just this pure awareness and the whole world appeariing in this awareness. There was no separation from those around me - I vividly remember  setting in a hotel lobby, experiencing the pride of the janitor in his freshly polished floors, the joy of two young girls headed for the spa, and the sadness of the concierege who was talking softly into the phone about a death in her family.  I was all them, and they were me.  My thinking would completely suspend itself leaving me with the most profound sense of unity and joy.    But experiences are not &#8220;it&#8221; because experiences come and go. And what YOU are, never changes.  I discovered that I was the screen on which all of these appearances occured.  I am the aliveness of life.   I now see what Jesus meant by &#8220;no one comes to the Father but through me.&#8221;  He WAS referring to each of us&#8230;why, in his compassion, would he claim such exclusivity?  The Father comes as joy, peace and love of others&#8230;I know of no other definition of God.   I also took opportunities to be with others who had come to the same understanding as Eckhart.  Some through the pointers of teachers, some through suffering, some with spontaneous awakenings. They all say the same thing as Eckhart, with their own delightful differences in personality.   Now life is very ordinary, very simple, often with wonderment at the simpliest things.  I go to sleep and wake up laughing spontaneously, with joy that wells up from deep within.  No one on the street would guess that so much peace abides here.  You, each of you, ARE the light of the world.  Because the world cannot appear without your &#8220;light&#8221; - your <em>awareness</em>. Do you think Jesus would have wanted it any other way?</p>
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		<title>By: ThreeAO</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-2971</link>
		<dc:creator>ThreeAO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 22:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." 2 Timothy 4

&lt;i&gt;This has been happening since the first century and will continue to.  We should not be afraid but do our job, to "preach the Word".&lt;/i&gt;

"18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[d] 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also."

 24See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.

 26I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him."  
1 John 2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.&#8221; <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=2+Timothy+4" class="bibleref" title="ESV 2Timothy 4">2 Timothy 4</a></p>
<p><i>This has been happening since the first century and will continue to.  We should not be afraid but do our job, to &#8220;preach the Word&#8221;.</i></p>
<p>&#8220;18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.</p>
<p>20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[d] 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.&#8221;</p>
<p> 24See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.</p>
<p> 26I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=1+John+2" class="bibleref" title="ESV 1John 2">1 John 2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Debi</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-2866</link>
		<dc:creator>Debi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who do so well for themselves in "this world's" terms have a very difficult time dealing with it.  Winfrey has looked to Tolle (for now) because he is telling her what she wants to hear or believe...or feel (whatever term they want to use).  It is difficult to for them to imagine that this in itself is ideology as you said, Tom.  And easily could produce a "religion."  The truth is no one knows.  We believe we know, we feel we know, we think we know, we have faith but we don't know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who do so well for themselves in &#8220;this world&#8217;s&#8221; terms have a very difficult time dealing with it.  Winfrey has looked to Tolle (for now) because he is telling her what she wants to hear or believe&#8230;or feel (whatever term they want to use).  It is difficult to for them to imagine that this in itself is ideology as you said, Tom.  And easily could produce a &#8220;religion.&#8221;  The truth is no one knows.  We believe we know, we feel we know, we think we know, we have faith but we don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gilson</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-2814</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasty? No, I've read many, many books and articles by New Age authors. I've outlined in this article (and &lt;a href="http://www.thinkingchristian.net/category/new-age/" rel="nofollow"&gt;others&lt;/a&gt;) why I think it's on the wrong track.

I have indeed applied critical thinking toward the Bible--in fact, three-plus years of interacting with skeptics on this blog has surely forced me to do that over and over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasty? No, I&#8217;ve read many, many books and articles by New Age authors. I&#8217;ve outlined in this article (and <a href="http://www.thinkingchristian.net/category/new-age/" rel="nofollow">others</a>) why I think it&#8217;s on the wrong track.</p>
<p>I have indeed applied critical thinking toward the Bible&#8211;in fact, three-plus years of interacting with skeptics on this blog has surely forced me to do that over and over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-2815</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's sad that you came to the hasty conclusion of calling it rubbish.

Did you use the same critical process when you read the bible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s sad that you came to the hasty conclusion of calling it rubbish.</p>
<p>Did you use the same critical process when you read the bible?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Peterman</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-2716</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Peterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thumbed through Tolle's book &lt;i&gt;A New Earth&lt;/i&gt; in Costco today and a couple things just made me feel sick to my stomach.

The first was that Tolle writes of his readers, "&lt;i&gt;You are&lt;/i&gt; the Truth!" and goes on to praise the words of Jesus, "I am the way, the truth and the life..." but in a sense that has Jesus leading the way for all of us in that we all ought to be saying this "I am the truth" about ourselves. Tolle turns the obvious exclusive claim of Christ right on its head. One may even think Jesus is wrong about his claim, but still understand that Jesus' claim about himself is exclusive. Tolle's approach to authorial intent is mindless blather. I gave up trying to even read some of the paragraphs because the flow of logic was so utterly absent.

The second was the number of people walking up to the book to read it and buy it, as if it was to be taken seriously and to heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thumbed through Tolle&#8217;s book <i>A New Earth</i> in Costco today and a couple things just made me feel sick to my stomach.</p>
<p>The first was that Tolle writes of his readers, &#8220;<i>You are</i> the Truth!&#8221; and goes on to praise the words of Jesus, &#8220;I am the way, the truth and the life&#8230;&#8221; but in a sense that has Jesus leading the way for all of us in that we all ought to be saying this &#8220;I am the truth&#8221; about ourselves. Tolle turns the obvious exclusive claim of Christ right on its head. One may even think Jesus is wrong about his claim, but still understand that Jesus&#8217; claim about himself is exclusive. Tolle&#8217;s approach to authorial intent is mindless blather. I gave up trying to even read some of the paragraphs because the flow of logic was so utterly absent.</p>
<p>The second was the number of people walking up to the book to read it and buy it, as if it was to be taken seriously and to heart.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveK</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-2713</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foxnews.com has &lt;a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351545,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;an article&lt;/a&gt; on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foxnews.com has <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351545,00.html" rel="nofollow">an article</a> on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-2710</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UGH!!!!!!!!

My friend, who has been in failed relationship after failed relationship is always buying "New Age spirituality self-help" books.
He lives according to the books ideals and standards for about a week.... and then is back moping around about how much of a failure he is, how he'll never find the love of his life, and how he'll never be truly happy.

Recently he was talking about some hokum he got from a new book that is "showing him" how to shed his ego and "unshackle" himself from his personality.... or something like that.  

Reading your post makes me think that this is what he stumbled on.
This book will be "It" for a solid month or two, then that flock will become disillusioned again and try to find the next big thing promising them to finally fulfill their lives.  Whatever that is supposed to mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UGH!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>My friend, who has been in failed relationship after failed relationship is always buying &#8220;New Age spirituality self-help&#8221; books.<br />
He lives according to the books ideals and standards for about a week&#8230;. and then is back moping around about how much of a failure he is, how he&#8217;ll never find the love of his life, and how he&#8217;ll never be truly happy.</p>
<p>Recently he was talking about some hokum he got from a new book that is &#8220;showing him&#8221; how to shed his ego and &#8220;unshackle&#8221; himself from his personality&#8230;. or something like that.  </p>
<p>Reading your post makes me think that this is what he stumbled on.<br />
This book will be &#8220;It&#8221; for a solid month or two, then that flock will become disillusioned again and try to find the next big thing promising them to finally fulfill their lives.  Whatever that is supposed to mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-2700</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...I had no idea about this.  I guess Oprah could by Obama's false prophet, if he turns out to be the antichrist!  lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;I had no idea about this.  I guess Oprah could by Obama&#8217;s false prophet, if he turns out to be the antichrist!  lol.</p>
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		<title>By: MedicineMan</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2008/04/thechurchofoprah/#comment-2674</link>
		<dc:creator>MedicineMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oprah's been getting more and more comfortable with the new-age hoodoo, and all the while claiming to be a Christian. Some of what she says &lt;a&gt;makes me wonder&lt;/a&gt; how many of her fans are buying into her postmodern caricature of spirituality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oprah&#8217;s been getting more and more comfortable with the new-age hoodoo, and all the while claiming to be a Christian. Some of what she says <a>makes me wonder</a> how many of her fans are buying into her postmodern caricature of spirituality.</p>
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